The Great Divide

**Cruncher** on Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:24 pm

This has happened before when we went from the old HVS MBBS version to TWGS. Once the dust settles and v2 becomes stable we'll all come together again. History tends to repeat its self this way.

**Big D** on Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:08 pm

Cruncher wrote:This has happened before when we went from the old HVS MBBS version to TWGS. Once the dust settles and v2 becomes stable we'll all come together again. History tends to repeat its self this way.

V2 won't become stable. Best thing for JP to do is abandon that project and do what he should have done to start with.

**Farley** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:04 am

Cruncher wrote:This has happened before when we went from the old HVS MBBS version to TWGS. Once the dust settles and v2 becomes stable we'll all come together again. History tends to repeat its self this way.

I wish you and the other 3 players that support you and your cause the best of luck. I am still out after BOTE is won by GZ. At least for a while. I call it my indefinite hiatus. (not that anyone will care about the indefinite part...lol)

**Cruncher** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:36 am

Farley wrote:
I wish you and the other 3 players that support you and your cause the best of luck. I am still out after BOTE is won by GZ. At least for a while. I call it my indefinite hiatus. (not that anyone will care about the indefinite part...lol)

R/L does come first. After BOTE I have to cut back as well, busy time of year for me. I'll still play a little game or two, but nothing too intense.

I'm just saying, as much as Big D is digging his heals into playing 1.03 and wanting that fixed, that's exactly what happened when we converted from HVS MBBS to TWGS. I don't remembe exactly who the hold-outs were then, but eventually everyone migrated to TWGS.

**Micro** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:53 pm

Cruncher wrote:I'm just saying, as much as Big D is digging his heals into playing 1.03 and wanting that fixed, that's exactly what happened when we converted from HVS MBBS to TWGS. I don't remembe exactly who the hold-outs were then, but eventually everyone migrated to TWGS.

and before that there were the Martech hold-outs... History will repeat itself...

**Farley** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:04 pm

Micro wrote:and before that there were the Martech hold-outs... History will repeat itself...

Dont hold your breath. More and more people are being ran off over the few that want to ruin the game. Not sure how anyone can think that making changes to please the minority while turning a cold shoulder on the majority is a good idea, but its a leading reason why, after BOTE, I am out.

**Cruncher** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:27 pm

Farley wrote:
Micro wrote:and before that there were the Martech hold-outs... History will repeat itself...

Dont hold your breath. More and more people are being ran off over the few that want to ruin the game. Not sure how anyone can think that making changes to please the minority while turning a cold shoulder on the majority is a good idea, but its a leading reason why, after BOTE, I am out.

Today's majority was yesterday's minority.

**Farley** on Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:13 pm

Cruncher wrote:Today's majority was yesterday's minority.

Apples are still apples, people are still leaving. game is still dying.

a wise man once said. "the more you over take the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain"

The new version is broken. Its killing the game.

EOM

**Big D** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:41 am

The diffference is, TWGS had 1000 of players up to version 1.03, this new version will have 10 or 20 maximum. JP either doesn't know how to attract new players, or his new version sucks enough that he can't attract new players, and he's already ran off half of the old players. History may repeat itself, but that won't do TW any good because it IS history unless JP changes his plans.

**Cruncher** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:21 am

Big D wrote:The diffference is, TWGS had 1000 of players up to version 1.03, this new version will have 10 or 20 maximum. JP either doesn't know how to attract new players, or his new version sucks enough that he can't attract new players, and he's already ran off half of the old players. History may repeat itself, but that won't do TW any good because it IS history unless JP changes his plans.

Or, all the new players are too intelligent to post in this forum. or play public games.

EIS Forum wrote:
TWGS v2.13
Download TWGS v2 to play TradeWars locally, or host your own private or public LAN or Internet game.

Total redirects: 1541

That's a few more than 10 - 20 people downloading each new release. Wink

**Micro** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:59 am

Cruncher wrote:
Big D wrote:The diffference is, TWGS had 1000 of players up to version 1.03, this new version will have 10 or 20 maximum. JP either doesn't know how to attract new players, or his new version sucks enough that he can't attract new players, and he's already ran off half of the old players. History may repeat itself, but that won't do TW any good because it IS history unless JP changes his plans.

Or, all the new players are too intelligent to post in this forum. or play public games.

EIS Forum wrote:
TWGS v2.13
Download TWGS v2 to play TradeWars locally, or host your own private or public LAN or Internet game.

Total redirects: 1541

That's a few more than 10 - 20 people downloading each new release.

That's only the redirects from the forum. There are a lot more downloads than that.

**Oso** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:22 pm

Cruncher wrote:
Big D wrote:The diffference is, TWGS had 1000 of players up to version 1.03, this new version will have 10 or 20 maximum. JP either doesn't know how to attract new players, or his new version sucks enough that he can't attract new players, and he's already ran off half of the old players. History may repeat itself, but that won't do TW any good because it IS history unless JP changes his plans.

Or, all the new players are too intelligent to post in this forum. or play public games.

EIS Forum wrote:
TWGS v2.13
Download TWGS v2 to play TradeWars locally, or host your own private or public LAN or Internet game.

Total redirects: 1541

That's a few more than 10 - 20 people downloading each new release.

Insulting the userbase outside of smack isn't good, Cruncher.
Pendator strikes! Total redirects does not equal # of downloads...
I don't have a horse in this race, I just want to keep Emerald Downs looking nice.

**Micro** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:05 pm

John Pritchett wrote:There have been just over 600 activations, but the total number of unique downloads is over 3500.

John Pritchett wrote:Most activity is in private games. Most players still don't want to play in public games because they're too aggressive. In the limited number of v2 servers running, where I can count player activity, we're up to about 900 unique players since middle of last month.

Clearly there are a lot of players that don't do public servers, and they don't post in forums.

Oso wrote:Total redirects does not equal # of downloads...

There are a lot more downloads than forum redirects, because not everone reads the forums.

**Farley** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:47 pm

yea, since jp has proven himself to be sooooo trustworthy, one would never expect him to pad the numbers in a vane attempt to re-assemble the remnants of the reputation he destroyed.

Laff, in laymans terms, I simply call BS

**Big D** on Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:22 pm

JP wrote:Corp messages are currently secure, but they're not sent as events in realtime, so they're not useful as a way to securely control bots. I believe that's the concern here, not content of corp messages. Some people want a secure, private corp comm link. That's what subspace was meant to be, a means for corporations to communicate as a group, but it was intentionally not made secure. I've wanted to avoid making it secure or making a replacement for it with a private corp comm link because I think that's a pretty big change.

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JP again ignores the requests of the majority of the player base. Even Helix said that he would like to see a secure private channel for corps. And yet some people wonder why the majority of the player base refuse to play his new version. Instead JP wants to require turns to move planets. What a joke.

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